VZ 3Q25 - A little static. Cleared up by Jan 26? Bull case $56 Bear case $35

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VZ Q3 2025 - Verizon Mixed Quarter as New CEO Schulman Launches Bold Transformation | StockTwits DD

Verizon Communications (VZ)

πŸ“Š Revenue $33.8B (+1.5% YoY MISS) | Adj EPS $1.21 vs $1.19 Est BEAT | 306K Broadband Adds | Wireless Revenue $21.0B (+2.1%) | CEO: "We Are Not Delivering Shareholder Returns"

7K Postpaid Phone Losses | Gross Adds +8.4% YoY | Churn 0.91% | Converged Customers 18% of Base (40% Lower Churn) | FCF $7B Q3 (+17% YoY) | 2026 FCF to Exceed 2025 | "This Is Not Incremental Change"

πŸ’° Market Cap: $166B | 🏒 105K Employees | 🌍 Americas + Global
πŸ‘¨β€πŸ’Ό CEO Dan Schulman | 🎯 Customer-First Transformation | πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ New York City
$40.17
πŸ“ˆ +$0.85 (+2.17%) Today
-13.2% YTD | Q3 2025 Beat on EPS
Price Targets (12-18 Months)

Current Price: $40.17

$56.00
Bull Case (+39%)
2026 EPS: $5.25 | P/E Multiple: 10.7x
Transformation Success
πŸš€ Needs:
Schulman's "customer champion" transformation delivers industry-leading churn below 0.85% by late 2026 β€’ Captures "fair share" of 5-8M annual new-to-industry postpaid adds vs current 0-5% share β€’ Frontier integration generates $500M+ revenue synergies from 29M fiber passings and wireless under-indexing in Frontier territory β€’ Converged customers grow from 18% to 30%+ of base leveraging 40% lower churn advantage β€’ "Significant cost transformation" and AI-driven efficiencies fund customer investments and drop to bottom line β€’ FWA reaches 6.5M+ subs by end 2026 on path to 8-9M by 2028 β€’ Market re-rates VZ as growth story, expanding P/E to sector average
$48.50
Base Case (+21%)
2026 EPS: $4.92 | P/E Multiple: 9.9x
Steady Execution
βš–οΈ Needs:
Maintains current wireless service revenue growth of 2-2.8% range through 2026 β€’ Postpaid phone churn stabilizes at current ~0.91% level without further deterioration β€’ Broadband adds 300K+ per quarter driven by FWA and Fios momentum β€’ Adj EBITDA growth of 2.5-3.5% continues as guided β€’ Free cash flow of $19.5-20.5B enables deleveraging and dividend support β€’ Frontier deal closes Q1 2026 without major integration issues β€’ New CEO's initiatives show early traction but measured progress
$35.00
Bear Case (-13%)
2026 EPS: $4.40 | P/E Multiple: 8.0x
Execution Stumble
⚠️ Risk:
Account losses accelerate beyond Q3's highest level since pandemic Q1 2020 as transformation takes 2-3 years β€’ T-Mobile and AT&T maintain share momentum while VZ struggles to capture "fair share" of new-to-industry adds β€’ Churn rises above 1% as competitors target VZ's base with aggressive switcher offers β€’ Schulman's "bold" changes face internal resistance or execution delays in shifting from tech-centric to customer-centric culture β€’ Cost transformation insufficient to fund customer investments without margin compression β€’ Public sector disconnect pressure intensifies from "government efficiency efforts" β€’ Frontier integration complexity distracts management and delays revenue synergies β€’ Promo amortization headwind continues to pressure service revenue growth β€’ CapEx efficiency targets prove unrealistic, forcing FCF guidance cut
The TL;DR
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What Happened
Revenue Miss: $33.8B up 1.5% YoY but missed $34.2B consensus - Business segment down 2.8% offset Consumer +2.9% growth

EPS Beat: Adj EPS $1.21 vs $1.19 est (+1.7% YoY) driven by cost controls and EBITDA growth of 2.3% to $12.8B

Postpaid Mixed: Gross adds up 8.4% YoY, 0.91% churn decent, but 7K net losses - highest account losses since Q1 2020

Broadband Strength: 306K adds (261K FWA now 5.4M/$3B+ annual revenue, 61K Fios best in 2 years) - base 13.2M up 1.3M YoY

Cash Flow King: Q3 FCF $7B up 17% YoY - highest in industry by $2B - YTD $15.8B up 9%, leverage 2.2x inside target
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Why It Matters
Blunt Assessment: Schulman: "We are clearly falling short of our potential and not delivering shareholder returns investors expect" - stock reflects this reality

Converged Power: 18% of postpaid base now converged (up 200bps YoY) with 40% lower churn than mobility-only - massive opportunity in Frontier's 29M passings

2026 FCF Growth: CFO commits 2026 FCF will exceed 2025 even including Frontier - Q3 FCF $7B highest in industry by nearly $2B

Competitive Wake-Up: VZ captures 0-5% of 5-8M annual new-to-industry postpaid adds - Schulman vows to win "fair share" responsibly

Culture Shift: "Not course correction but fundamental change" from tech-centric to customer-first - AI will personalize offers and reduce costs
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What's Next
2025 On Track: Reiterated wireless service +2.0-2.8%, adj EBITDA +2.5-3.5%, adj EPS +1-3%, FCF $19.5-20.5B - YTD tracking top end

Frontier Integration: Deal closing Q1 2026 after 11 of 13 state approvals - Frontier "performing extremely well" above deal expectations

4 Strategic Pillars: (1) Grow share of industry net adds via customer delight (2) Cost transformation (3) Capital efficiency (4) Accelerate shareholder returns

Tillman Fiber Expansion: Capital-light partnership to build fiber outside VZ/Frontier footprint using Fios brand for more convergence opportunity

January Deep Dive: Full 2026 guidance plus details on portfolio rationalization, legacy business exits, and multi-year transformation roadmap
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Bottom Line for Retail Investors
Schulman delivered a brutally honest assessment: "We are clearly falling short of our potential and not delivering shareholder returns investors expect." The Q3 results prove it - highest account losses since pandemic Q1 2020 despite decent 0.91% churn and 8.4% gross add growth. But here's why this matters: Schulman isn't sugar-coating anything. His mandate is clear - grow customer base profitably across mobility and broadband, with VZ currently capturing just 0-5% of the 5-8M annual new-to-industry postpaid adds. The convergence story is real: 18% of postpaid base is converged with 40% lower churn, and Frontier's 29M fiber passings offer massive cross-sell runway. Most important: CFO committed 2026 FCF will EXCEED 2025 even including Frontier integration. At 8x forward P/E with 7% yield, you're betting on a 2-3 year transformation where cost cuts fund customer investments and AI personalizes the value prop. Not a momentum play, but potentially the most undervalued turnaround story in telecom if you believe in Schulman's track record. January guidance will be the key test.
πŸ‚ Bull Thesis
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Transformational CEO
Customer Champion DNA: At PayPal declared "customer champion" mission - "doing what customers expect, addressing pain points, then delight and surprise"

Telecom Roots: Started at NJ Bell, 18 years at AT&T (Consumer President), founded Virgin Mobile to 5M+ subs with "no hidden fees" disruption

Turnaround Expert: "Big companies are extraordinarily good at responding to crisis" - this is clarion call to reclaim market leadership

Board Insider: 7 years on VZ board as Lead Director - knows exactly what needs fixing, detailed January roadmap coming
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Broadband Powerhouse
FWA Scale: 5.4M subs generating $3B+ annualized revenue, path to 8-9M by 2028 - "long-term sustainable business"

Fios Acceleration: 61K Q3 adds best in 2 years - expanding within existing footprint where demand is strong

Frontier Upside: $20B deal adds 29M fiber passings where VZ wireless "significantly under-indexes" - massive cross-sell from day one

Tillman Expansion: Capital-light partnership to build fiber outside VZ/Frontier footprint using Fios brand - "optionality we did not have before"
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Cash Flow Machine
Industry Leader: Q3 FCF $7B up 17% YoY - "highest reported in our industry by nearly $2B for the period"

2026 Commitment: CFO Tony Skiadas stated "we expect free cash flow growth in 2026 year over year, all-in including Frontier"

Leverage Ahead of Plan: Net debt/EBITDA 2.2x inside 2.0-2.25x target range BEFORE Frontier close - Frontier adds just 0.25x temporarily

Dividend Sacrosanct: Schulman: "dividend is sacrosanct to us" - 19th consecutive increase, 7% yield sustainable with strong FCF
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Valuation Opportunity
Deep Discount: Trading at 8.0x forward P/E vs telecom sector avg 12x and S&P 500 at 19x

Yield Advantage: 7% dividend yield significantly above T-Mobile (3.1%) and AT&T (5.5%) for income seekers

Re-rating Potential: If Schulman delivers on transformation, stock could re-rate toward sector P/E for 40%+ upside

Downside Protection: Strong balance sheet, stable cash flows, and subscriber base provide floor at these levels
🐻 Bear Thesis
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Subscriber Losses Continue
Historic Losses: Account losses worst since Q1 2020 pandemic quarter despite 8.4% gross add growth - VZ capturing 0-5% of new-to-industry adds

Switcher Vulnerability: Schulman admits "clearly losing share and that's not sustainable path" - 5-8M annual new postpaid market largely going to rivals

Top 4 Churn Drivers: (1) Price increases (2) Friction in customer experience (3) Value perception vs competitors (4) Competitive intensity

Pricing is "Last Refuge": Schulman: "Pricing is last refuge of the marketing desperate" - implies past over-reliance on price hurt customer base
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Transformation Uncertainty
Multi-Year Journey: Schulman: "This will not happen overnight, there's no one silver bullet" - 2-3 year transformation timeline tests investor patience

Massive Cultural Lift: "I don't want to underestimate how big a shift that is" moving from technology-centric to customer-centric organization

Cost Cuts Must Deliver: Entire transformation funded by OpEx savings - if costs don't come out fast enough, margins compress and strategy fails

Details Deferred: Schulman promises "more specifics in January" on portfolio rationalization and legacy exits - execution risk until then
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Competitive Intensity
Respect for Rivals: Schulman: "Both AT&T and T-Mobile are excellent companies with strong leaders in John and Srini. I have ton of respect"

Share Reality: T-Mobile and AT&T capturing majority of 5-8M annual new-to-industry postpaid adds while VZ gets 0-5% share

Won't Get Irrational: "No need to ratchet up high promotional spend...no reason to be irrationally aggressive" - but how to win without promos?

Gravity Analogy: Schulman views competition "like gravity" - always there, can't wish it away, must learn to operate within it effectively
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Integration & Leverage Risks
Frontier Burning Cash: Frontier currently burning ~$1B annually in fiber buildout - VZ must deliver 2026 FCF growth "all-in including Frontier"

Quarter Turn Add: Frontier adds 0.25x to leverage temporarily per CFO - commitment to stay in 2.0-2.25x range "is not going to change"

Integration During Turnaround: Closing Q1 2026 during CEO's first 6 months risks divided focus between transformation and deal execution

Portfolio Rationalization: Schulman promises "aggressively sunset or exit legacy businesses" with "billions of dollars of margin" at stake

This analysis is for informational purposes only and should not be considered investment advice. Please consult with a financial advisor before making investment decisions.